Stromberg damper oil.

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#1 Stromberg damper oil.

Post by Norton » Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:13 pm

Hi.
-73 S3 V12. I am fiddeling with the carburettors and adjusting the needle height. But what about the damper oil? What effect will a heavier oil give? And a lighter oil? And what effect, if any will a low / high oil level give? Critically low level I have experienced and have replaced the O ring on all four.

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#2 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by DWW » Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:25 am

I expect thicker oil will increase the damping therefore acceleration and deccelaration will be more gradual. I would guess the performance will be less ‘sporty’.
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#3 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by Norton » Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:37 am

Thank you.
Have been using 20/50 engine oil, then for some reason I cannot remember I changed to straight 30. And I lowered the needles slightly at the same time. Probably a bad idea, as you should never change two parameters at the same time. Which I deep inside knew, but on the forum it seems to be agreed that its hard to tell if the the oil viscosity really matters. Anyway, now I’m gonna try 50 oil as the engine have some hesitations on accellerating at a needle position I feel is pretty much right.
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#4 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by DWW » Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:52 pm

Just use SU oil available on auction site or ordinary 3 in 1 oil.
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#5 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by bitsobrits » Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:08 pm

Lowering the needle will make the mixture leaner for a given piston height. And increasing damper oil viscosity can introduce short duration lean flat spots on rapid throttle opening as the air piston lags the airflow. If you don't know what you are doing, following the factory manual exactly would be the best path forward. The factory specifies a relatively thin oil for a reason.
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#6 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by DWW » Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:35 pm

:yeahthat: too
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#7 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by Allrand » Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:59 pm

Sorry, have to disagree. Thicker oil retards the rise of the piston, and causes temporary enrichment on rapid opening of the throttle plate, due to the higher air speed across the jet, which slows down as the piston rises and mixture returns to correct for the throttle position. It is effectively the accelerator pump.
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#8 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by abowie » Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:17 pm

Allrand wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:59 pm
causes temporary enrichment on rapid opening of the throttle plate, due to the higher air speed across
This is how I understand it.

So thicker oil or stiffer springs make the mixture richer when you open the throttle.
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#9 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by Allrand » Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:13 am

:yeahthat: Also stiffer springs will make the mixture rich throughout the range because the piston is kept lower. Conversely a weaker spring will weaken the mixture, it's all due to the varying venturi effect.
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#10 Re: Stromberg damper oil.

Post by malcolm » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:49 am

Thicker oil, more resistance, richer mixture which is required for acceleration. I just use 20/50 and top up when I'm putting the oil in the engine anyway.
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