S1 complete re-trim

RichardF · Post by **RichardF** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:12 pm

Hello all

I am looking at getting a complete re-trim of my OTS. I have spoken with Mick Turley, who is obviously knowledgeable and has been great to speak with and they seem to be the top people to go to but the cost in the current climate is starting to weigh on my mind. I want to use the best as it is something that is clearly visible every time you use the car.

Has anyone else had a re-trim done? how much was it and was it good?

Thanks

Richard

PS By the way previous advice on vented dics and long manifold have been great and are being implemented as I write.

Post by **Heuer** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:29 pm

Richard

Eric Suffolk of Suffolk & Turley did mine. I got him to do the centre console and seats but also bought a felt and carpet set. I re-fitted the seats/console/carpets myself. Cost of the re-trim work and carpets was about ?1200. On my car the dash, dash top, hardura, door panels, hood did not need doing. Eric's work is second to none and he was a delight to work with. If you are prepared to remove/refit the bits yourself the savings can be considerable. I would not recommend DIY work on seat or console trimming though as it is very skilled. The rest however is relatively simple. If you have the interior out don't forget to install Koolmat as it will make for a much better driving environment in summer, even in an OTS. I would guess a full interior re-trim on an OTS (including hood) would be about ?5,000. No doubt Mark can chip in on what a full professional re-trim costs in a FHC as his car is with CMC at the moment.

So consider what bits are within your capabilities and what bits should be farmed out. One thing though, the dash panels were originally covered by heat and vacuum formed plastic and this is no longer available - repair is almost impossible. The only option is to use grained leatherette which is a poor substitute so if you can save the originals I suggest you do so.

Post by **1954Etype** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:55 pm

Agree with David re Suffolk and Turley (they have done 2 hoods for me and will be doing my third). Mick Turley is also excellent but I can't speak for any work done by him for me.

I used BAS to provide my trim kit and they trimmed the Radio Console, Centre Console and Seats (I provided the shells all blasted and powder coated.

I then trim the car myself. Satisfying to do and not really that difficult. I think the BAS kit is under 2k - including the seat and console covers. Trimming the seats and console is extra as is the car if you require.

MarkE · Post by **MarkE** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:36 pm

I would normally go the same route as David and 1954...I'd get the centre console and seats (and hood if need be) done by professionals, and do the rest myself using a kit.

My car was retrimmed in the early 70s by a pimp in Los Angeles, with button-down blue velour seats and matching headlining. The door cards etc were very tatty, and a fair bit was missing, so a complete re-trim was required. I took the easy option and the whole lot is being done by CMC for about ?6.5k...it is a coupe so requires a fair bit more work that an OTS.

And work is starting on the trimming next week, so I'll soon be able to let you know how good it is. The trimming I have seen done by CMC is first class, so I'm expecting a good job!

RichardF · Post by **RichardF** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:44 pm

Thanks for the info. Koolmat stuff is quite expensive - is it in place of the sound proofing material or as well as?

Post by **Heuer** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:24 pm

Richard

Koolmat is used in addition to the standard felts. It is quite thin but resists heat and reduces drumming in the panels it is glued to so provides additional noise reduction. Because of the way it is installed it also acts to seal the floors, meaning if (when

) you have water getting into the car you only need remove and dry the carpets/felts and not worry about the floor pans suffering. At ?200 it is one of the best value upgrades you can make because on a hot and glorious summers day you really will not want to be out in an E-Type without it fitted.

MarkE · Post by **MarkE** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:39 pm

David, on a on a hot and glorious summers day in my Black Coupe I'm going to need all the help I can get keeping the car cool inside! I can't imagine what it must have been like to drive in summer in Los Angeles when it was new...probably a contributing factor to it only being on the road over there for 8 years.

Post by **Heuer** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:52 pm

Mark

Have you asked CMC to install Koolmat for you?

MarkE · Post by **MarkE** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:56 pm

It is being fitted...in fact, I seem to remember that Nick suggested it. Got me thinking now....perhaps I'll give him a quick call just to make sure!

frogeater · Post by **frogeater** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:15 pm

Heuer wrote: Koolmat
Because of the way it is installed it also acts to seal the floors, meaning if (when ) you have water getting into the car you only need remove and dry the carpets/felts and not worry about the floor pans suffering. .

Hello David,
I read and read about insulation, and this sentence sounds obvious: In 2011, do you still think the same, viewing at your car?

Hello Chris c,
I notice you seem to chose this company ( http://www.thermotec.com/ ) could you explain your choice please? (waiting for your restoration also)

Emmanuel

Post by **Heuer** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:28 pm

Yes, Koolmat is still my preferred heat and sound insulation material.

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:45 am

I have actually used a mix of heat/acoustic damping materials.

In the passenger footwell - i have used heat protection that can withstand 2000 degrees direct heat because the long tube racing manifolds are pretty close to the bulkhead and will probably cook the passengers feet.

But basically I used Coolmat as I have used it before, it is easy to fit and it is easily obtainable from most motorsport companies. Coolmat make a lot of heat protection materials so you do have to make some decisions.

I.e. inside the doors, over the rear axle and around the transmission tunnel - I used a material that has much higher acoustic damping than heat protection.

frogeater · Post by **frogeater** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:22 am

Thank you David and Chris for your message,
In 1994, I took off all the original insulation of a jaguar xj6 s?ries 1, and since, I think that insulation has to be removable to allow an annual or at least, a periodic check.
The Koolmat solution to be effective has to be glued on the floor; do you think that just some point of glue (to have the possibility to look under the material, especially on the front floors) would be efficient?
Emmanuel

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:36 am

For accoustic damping you definitely need the material stuck to the panels because thats how it stops them drumming - but if its only heat protection you are after then I guess you dont need to glue it down everywhere.

Most of the modern materials are I think designed to be glued to the panels as they are only a few mm thick.

jaguartaylor · Post by **jaguartaylor** » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:45 pm

Hi Gents,

I had my interior re-trimmed by BAS-International they installed it for me too and I couldn't be happier went back for countless trim kits after!

They are really helpful and friendly!

http://www.car-hood.co.uk

Hope this helps everyone!!

Dan

vikla · Post by **vikla** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:58 pm

Could you share with us some idea about costs of having the trimming done, e.g. I am looking to get my seats and console done on a S1 4.2 FHC

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:21 pm

Hi Vikla - i have sent you a PM based on my experience with Mike Turley who will accommodate you from a complete - "do it yourself" kit up to him doing all the work for you and in between you will do as much or as little as you want...

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