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#21 Tracker

Post by cactusman » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:36 pm

For most PAYG sim cards so long as the sim sends a text every three months the number remains active. If it does not them the phone company will re-allocate the number. You would need to check the SIM terms and make sure the tracker texts once in a while.
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Post by mgcjag » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:18 pm

Something else to check is how often it needs charging
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Post by Durango2k » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:11 am

andrewh wrote:Good idea ,Mobutu what do you do when you get back your car with a flat battery on your phone or you lost it ?
Don?t know who Mobutu is, but I bet you can use ANY phone, just install the free app, connect to your car?s 123, enter pin, done.

If phone empty, use cigar connector, wait 2 minutes, boot phone, start app, enter pin, drive home.

Of course it can be inconvenient. The price is one of these things for example. No idea but bet it?s 500ish.

Good old "take rotor arm with ya" may be cheaper.

Or "park large DOG in car while away" may work as well.

As I often said, I do not really like rising values. Other people think you are rich if you have an E, but in fact you built it yourself in 4000 man hours, 25000 Euros in parts alone you saved in monthly doses of 200 without EVER talking to SWMBO about this, needing a second secret address for SNG parcels, and cannot insure it properly. Darn.

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Post by andrewh » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:56 am

I guess that was spell check of you and me not reading my posts before pressing send! I still would not like to muddle my ignition with mobile devices. Both are , how can I say, tricky little blighters if they want to be. I mean my all singing dancing iphone6S does everything, it even tells me when to go for a pee. But it doesn't answer calls, it automatically puts them to voice mail. The 123 can be a troublesome unit I am led to believe, so combining these two together leaves you somewhat vulnerable. Lee what is that black box you are looking at then?
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Post by mgcjag » Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:58 am

Hi Andrew....have a look at this link on the tracker Lee posted....quite a good site with lots of info https://www.rewiresecurity.co.uk/102-na ... -wired-kit
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Post by christopher storey » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:17 am

I am still of the view ( although I didn't get one ) that one of the best security devices is the detachable steering wheel . Once that is off taking the car, certainly without some very specialised equipment , is going to be a difficult and very time consuming process

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Post by 1954Etype » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:54 am

Agreed. Best overt deterrent ever. They will br available soon - l have had 3 on back order for over a year now!
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Post by 288gto » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:53 am

christopher storey wrote:
.............. certainly without some very specialised equipment , is going to be a difficult and very time consuming process
I'm not entirely convinced Christopher. I looked at one at Bicester and it certainly looks a superb bit of kit. My only concern is that this on it's own might not be sufficient. While it will deter the opportunist, a couple of mole grips will soon make it easy to steer onto a trailer or into the back of a truck. My Uncle has a tracker/ alarm on his Aston that notifies him by phone if the car is moved or the alarm activated. This is something I will be doing once mine is finished.

As mentioned before, now these vehicle prices are heading over the ?100,000 mark they will unfortunately be attracting an altogether more organised and determined element of the criminal fraternity.

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#29 Theft

Post by cactusman » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:29 am

Removable steering wheel is fine at a show. People pushing a car and steering with mole grips would attract attention. However if undisturbed then of limited use against the professional I suspect.
The police told me to use a variety of both technological (alarms\cctv\trackers etc) along with at least two and ideally more, physical barriers that would require time and noise to defeat. So big locks on the gate, t bar on the garage door, wheel clamp. Shroud steering lock. These cover the wheel entirely and would need angle grinder to remove. Park a modern vehicle directly in front of the garage. Hide all keys in doors. Basically lots of obstacles. Deterence is better than recovery. Make it so awkward that they will move on. These are pro's and the last thing they want is to be caught or leave evidence so they look for easy pickings. Make sure your car is not easy pickings...
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Post by Heuer » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:36 am

If a car is stolen to order by a professional gang they are going to know where the car is, survey the location and plan accordingly. Very little will protect you and trackers do not operate well when in a shipping container. The removable steering wheel and fuel pump isolators are ideal against the opportunistic thief because they have no time to prepare. When we travel through Europe I have few concerns about security because we are on the move every day and there is no routine. Parking in a town street during the day is perfectly safe because the car is usually surrounded by people taking photographs. At a Hotel car park overnight the removable steering wheel (wheel on full lock) and an immobiliser provide peace of mind. An opportunistic thief carrying two Mole grips? I think not!!

Best defence is to make sure you are adequately agreed value insured.

Removable wheel kit is ?315 and available now: http://www.superspoke.co.uk/jaguar-quick-release

GPS Jammer (which a thief will probably carry) is ?10.99: http://tinyurl.com/jpqzwqb
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Post by JimmyS » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:24 am

GPS Jammer (which a thief will probably carry) is ?10.99: http://tinyurl.com/jpqzwqb
Looks like we need to install a hidden switch in our cigar lighter circuits as well now. :roll:
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Post by Heuer » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:54 pm

vipergts wrote:Because I'm daft I don't understand the Pay as you go SIM card costs? How much is this likely to cost a month, is it only if you use your phone app to locate it and it then sends a signal or is it continually sending a signal? This is the jobbie I have my eye on:
You would be better off with this one as it comes complete with PAYG SIM card: http://tinyurl.com/z97vbwh It is the latest and more advanced version of the one you are looking at. The company selling it have a UK helpline and also provide a free (for the first year) advanced mapping service in addition to the free mapping.
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Post by mgcjag » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:59 pm

Anyone looking for a good sim deal then have a look at BT mobile.....quite good offers if you are already a BT broadband user.....and the coverage is probably the best you can get now they have taken over EE....
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Post by andrewh » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:40 pm

mgcjag wrote:Hi Andrew....have a look at this link on the tracker Lee posted....quite a good site with lots of info https://www.rewiresecurity.co.uk/102-na ... -wired-kit
Thank you Steve. I quite like the idea that one can move these from car to car. Food for thought.
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Post by Heuer » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:15 pm

Not as easy as that. You need to install a GPS antenna which must be able to see the sky and a GSM antenna that is not behind metal. If you want to have a remote kill switch you will need a wired relay along with the permanent power supply for the unit. Not sure if you need a different SIM for use in Europe. The portable one is designed more for attaching to a person (kids, employees) or for a drone. This is the one you need for a car:
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The GSM antenna is lower left, the GPS antenna is lower right which can be a bit of a giveaway to a knowledgeable thief as about the only place to mount them on an E-Type would be on top of the dash..
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Post by neil4444 » Sun May 01, 2016 4:05 am

I use a sim from this company...

http://www.globalm2msim.com

It's global (200 countries), contract free, completely PAYG & doesn't expire if you don't use. They were really helpful with getting me set up too

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Post by mgcjag » Sun May 01, 2016 9:22 am

Some confusion now over the instalation of these trackers......some of the ones ive looked at including the one above that David posted have inbuilt arials and are supplied with additional arials to increase signal streangth and wireing for direct connection....however most appear to say they can be used as a stand alone unit with no external connections.... also stated is they can be mounted under the car, under the bonnet, in the spare wheel well.....so that means tbey are behind metal.......so question for you guys using them whats the reality.....do they work as a stand alone and in hidden locations under metal
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Post by mark10337 » Sun May 01, 2016 10:18 am

GPS signals are better with a clear view of the sky, but depending on how good the receiver is, will work behind glass and metal, as long as the shielding is fairly minimal. These units also have a GSM receiver, which will triangulate according to mobile masts. Pretty much the same as the features a modern mobile phone has. - Reception will be improved in a clear open space, but they still work inside a car.
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Post by Durango2k » Sun May 01, 2016 10:26 am

Connect aerial port to car chassis ?

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