Security Query

vern jones · Post by **vern jones** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:16 pm

Hi there what is todays best security device. What do people tend to use?

chrisfell · Post by **chrisfell** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:30 pm

1. Alarm triggered by doors or motion.
2. Tracker.
3 (optional) Staffordshire bull terrier.

1 detects the casual thief and as the alarm is VERY LOUD makes it obvious the car is being stolen.
2 lets you follow the car when taken by a more determined thief.
3 compact little animal made from pig iron and dragons teeth - deters even the most seriously committed tea leaf.

Post by **Heuer** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:35 pm

1. Removable steering wheel
2. Fuel pump isolator - regularly catches me out!

288gto · Post by **288gto** » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:36 pm

I have also found out that " Anti Jacking" Alarm Immobilisers are becoming more popular just incase you are forced to hand over your keys while in the car. A signal is then sent to the car to immobilise it.
Also perhaps a tracker that incorporates a pager to let you know the car is moved.
Consider as well whether or not the tracker offers European cover and retrieval.

Simon

ralphr1780 · Post by **ralphr1780** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:48 am

Wondering whether any fellows around have looked at or tested a wheel blocker?
Some appear to be quite strong and compact, easy to fit in the trunk and promptly installed.
There are several models on the market.
What are the opinions of the wise crowd?

malcolm · Post by **malcolm** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:08 am

remove the rotor arm

Alty Ian · Post by **Alty Ian** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:21 am

Heuer wrote:1. Removable steering wheel
2. Fuel pump isolator - regularly catches me out!

Dave. I have discovered that it is so easy to remove the top UJ bolt and remove the whole steering column and intend to do this while staying overnight etc.

Item 2 also regularly catches me out. At a show a week or two ago, I was asked to run the engine and had the major embarrasment of it conking out and me spending ages trying to diagnose the fault watched my many onlookers, then suddenly realised why

It does work rather well.

MarekH · Post by **MarekH** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:08 pm

For the v12, a simple trick is to simply remove the throttle linkage. The thief might start and run the car, but they'll never get it to go above idle speed and will be a moving roadblock, attracting attention from everyone who sets eyes on the car.

kind regards
Marek

ralphr1780 · Post by **ralphr1780** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:20 pm

malcolm wrote:remove the rotor arm

Running with EDIS.
Anyway, rotor arm will not block the car from being hauled on a flatbed or in a truck.
I should have stated "wheel clamp", like the ones often seen on caravans or on cars left outside the dealers showrooms, or if you have been unlucky with your parking spot. Illustration here:
https://www.google.be/search?q=wheel+cl ... MQ_AUIBigB

Moeregaard · Post by **Moeregaard** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:16 pm

1. Wheel lock. I like this one, as it discourages the professional thieves with
flatbed trucks.

2. Removable steering wheel. Inconvenient if you're out and about.

3. Fuel-pump switch in a discreet location. Discourages the casual thieves.

4. Remove dizzy rotor. Not effective against the guys mentioned in #1, but
will cause the casual thief to say something bad about Joseph Lucas before
moving on to his next target.

5. Main battery switch with removable key. About as effective as as #3.

MLBS3V12 · Post by **MLBS3V12** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:27 pm

Sleep in the car..... :D

Post by **Heuer** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:45 pm

Not even sure a Wheel lock will fit on a wire wheel with spinner - anyone tried? It is so impractical though if two of you are touring with luggage in an OTS. They are big and heavy.

cactusman · Post by **cactusman** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:53 pm

Wheel lock needs to be a shroud type that encloses the wheel such as a disklok or else the thief will simply saw through your wheel....I know!!!!!

Get a tracker. Fit a fuel pump sabotage switch somewhere. I also have a separate hidden key lock switch that feeds the coil. When switched off the car will crank for ever but never fire.

If I am on hols with the car I have a huge wheel clamp that threads through the front suspension and covers the wheel. Weights a lot but overnight in a car park this and a disklok and you would need some serious angle grinding to be able to even roll the car. Would deter all but the most determined of professional tea leafs.

ralphr1780 · Post by **ralphr1780** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:41 pm

cactusman wrote:Wheel lock needs to be a shroud type that encloses the wheel such as a disklok or else the thief will simply saw through your wheel....I know!!!!!

He will have to lift the car, cut 72 spokes, pull wheel and the clamp out, remove the spinner, fit the spare wheel, refit spinner. Then he can start moving the car.
Or he can take an angle grinder and cut the clamp.
In both cases time + effort consuming, on top of waking up the neighbours.
There are some clamp models which are quite compact, which could be stowed behind the seats or in the trunk will no much impact on the beauty case space.
Without the steering wheel, the car can still be rather promptly hauled.
The clamp and smart switch deactivating engine start seem a good combo, and the clamp has a good deterring visibility.

chrisfell · Post by **chrisfell** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:10 pm

I've purchased a cheap tracker on eBay. I'll let you all know how I get on with it.

Gfhug · Post by **Gfhug** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:18 pm

For a FHC a modified remote central locking kit could work to prevent entry.
This would not use the existing locks but actuate a solenoid to push an extra dead-lock between door and B post.

There are remote central locking kits available but would need modifying.
Any of our experts care to comment or suggest ways to achieve this?
Or shoot me down for being foolish.

Geoff

Post by **1954Etype** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:53 pm

Why is number inconvenient? Mine goes in the boot which is then locked.

cactusman · Post by **cactusman** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:21 am

Ralph
Disklok goes over the steering wheel not the road wheel. For a road wheel use a large and heavy wheel clamp with a chain that can be threaded through the suspension arms. Anything can be cut off given time and effort and a battery angle grinder. Clamps and the like are there to deter the opportunistic thief and delay the determined thief long enough for them to decide best to move on to easier pickings elsewhere sadly.

The aim of the game is to make the car difficult to steal as you cannot make it impossible. Even shoving wood blocks under the wheels and the like while at home in your garage helps....yet another four things the thief has to move before they can move the car....

chrisfell · Post by **chrisfell** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:08 pm

Report on the cheap tracker.

It works. Just dial the sim in the tracker and it replies with a text message including its current position.

However, it isn't heat resistant. No problem until you leave it in the car in (say) southern France on a hot sunny day. Then it protests and quickly sends messages when you don't need it. Unfortunately there is nowhere in an E-Type that doesn't get hot on a sunny day.

Anyway, for around £30 plus the costs of sending texts from a pay as you go sim, it gave peace of mind when the car was left on unfamiliar streets.

cactusman · Post by **cactusman** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Well done Chris.

I would urge everyone to fit trackers to their cars no matter how secure they are. Don't rely on just a tracker though. Locks, secret switches and all the other devices to stop them being pinched in the first place must be used... trackers are a back stop just in case the worst should happen...and hide them and don't tell ANYONE where yours is.....

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