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Post by Heuer » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:32 pm

mgcjag wrote:Hi Peter.......Interested in you Rear light info but never seen the Lotus light conversion (do you have a photo?) also what are Clam shells? thanks Steve
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The Lotus Elan used parts from various production cars (the front indicators and sidelights are off an Aston Martin DB5, for example) and the rear light cluster's were from the S2 E-Type parts bin, used up side down.

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Lotus modified them slightly to include the reversing lights so using a pair allows you to tidy up the rear of the S2 by dumping the separate ones. This allows a rectangular number plate to be fitted and S1 resonators. The 'clam shells' are the chrome finishers which wrap around the light clusters which you can also leave off along with the stainless flat panel.
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Post by PeterCrespin » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 pm

mgcjag wrote:Hi Peter.......Interested in you Rear light info but never seen the Lotus light conversion (do you have a photo?) also what are Clam shells? thanks Steve
Clam shells are the chrome finishers on each side blending the lamp cluster to the body. They aren't a bad item but they stick out and make the back end look wider by drawing some attention to the lamps.

Odd that we can't post pics here - you'll have to PM me.

The Lotus lamps are different and rather than being a raid on Jag's bin I think they were just a variation on a theme. The Jag is the raider if anything, because the Jag bases have provision for the reversing lights which is not drilled for the bulbholder and reflector, so it is a cheap imitation of the Lotus rather than vice versa IMHO. The lenses are the same except Lotus specified a clear insert in one of the slots where Jag asked for a reflector. Technically you could try putting a clear ribbed lens in there and knocking out some kind of bulb holder of your own design.

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Post by Heuer » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:44 pm

Pete

You can post pictures here by following these instructions: http://etypeuk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1666 Your link was to a picture on your PC which is not a good idea hence we suggest using a free Photobucket account to host them.

So point Photobucket at C:\Documents and Settings\Pete\My Documents\E-type resto\Body\DSC02397 and it will upload the picture, save it and give you a working link to post here.

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Post by PeterCrespin » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:54 pm

Yeah, definitely maybe :-)

Am used to another forum using this exact same software, where we just add images from wherever into the posts themselves. Nobody can get at my computer. I tried the link thing just in case, but it was never going to work I guess with the way it's set up here.

If anyone wants to PM me, fine. If not, I might do something ma?ana when I get a round tuit.
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Post by Nick » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:54 pm

There must have been a US lighting requirement that forced Jaguar to go with the separate reversing lights. Surely they wouldn't have made another tailpipe variant and lived with the rather messy (IMHO) rear detailing if they could have avoided it by putting the reversing lights in the lamp clusters.

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Post by PeterCrespin » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:19 pm

Nick wrote:There must have been a US lighting requirement that forced Jaguar to go with the separate reversing lights. Surely they wouldn't have made another tailpipe variant and lived with the rather messy (IMHO) rear detailing if they could have avoided it by putting the reversing lights in the lamp clusters.

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Who knows? The rot set in with bumper requirements AFAIK. The height was specified and I think they had to be continuous, or Jag thought it made sense in the land of 'touch parking'. From the repositioned bumper issue sprang the numberplate space restriction, requiring a two-row square plate. When I went to single0row I had to get a special one made with slightly closer character spacing to fit the space. The numberplate format is what dictated the splayed pipes so once you go single-row you can revert to Series 1 resonators. I was thinking of using a Series 1 reversing light instead of the twin Lotus ones but the boot floor doesn't have the dent you need to accommodate the S1 light unit.

I am still wondering about fitting one but using it for a 21W fog lamp with a red tinted bulb. I also considered only fitting one Lotus lens with a clear reversing lamp lens and having the other one red as a fog lamp. I like symmetrical cars and bikes though...
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Post by Heuer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:31 am

You will find it very difficult to source the original Lotus rear light sets. Unlike E-Type's the Lotus Elan is not well served by repro parts suppliers. You could try Paul Matty Sportscars http://www.paulmattysportscars.co.uk/Parts.aspx or Susan Miller http://www.mickmillerlotus.com/parts-lighting.html who may be able to help.

Part numbers are MRLA050BR and MRLA050BL and cost about ?150 each. You may be able to buy just the lenses for less.
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Post by Nick » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:52 pm

How often do you need reversing lights ?

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Post by Heuer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:35 pm

Invariably when some pillock pulls up right behind you when you are about to reverse into a parking space :?:
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Post by Heuer » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:46 pm

Pete posted this picture of his car on Jag-Lovers so I thought I would snag a copy and link it here to complete the thread. The modification looks really good IMHO:
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Any more pictures Mr Crespin?
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Post by PeterCrespin » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:55 pm

Excuse me? What sort of man do you think I am David? I don't show pictures of my rear end to just anyone....not on a first date anyway :-)

unless you ply me with drink.

Am at Heathrow and won't be back for two weeks so will take some when I get back.
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