Electric wires mystery

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#1 Electric wires mystery

Post by dlgis » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:32 pm

Hi all, I have a few unattached wires on the central dash panel that I’m hoping someone will be able to identify and save me some time :bigrin:

1. There’s a connected pair of Red/light green wires flapping in the breeze on the right side of the panel

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2. There are 2 red wires, each with a barrel shaped “connector?” doing nothing at the moment

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3. There’s an unattached black earth? cable that connects to what looks like a grouped earth connector. The connected end is shown with an arrow below:

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I have a number of electrical items currently not working - horn, interior and panel lights, windscreen washers.

So just hoping someone will know where those loose wires go :fingerscrossed:
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#2 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by TGN » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:09 pm

I think red/green is rear fog light. I had similar spare on my new loom behind the dash.
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#3 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by Gfhug » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:15 pm

3.8 wiring diagram can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=700
Do you not have the maintenance manual with these diagrams?
Also buy this:
https://coventryautocomponents.co.uk/st ... uct_id=318

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#4 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by rswaffie » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:17 pm

As above, the diags are your best friend. Coventry in particular.
The red/light green are the wiper motor and switch connections.

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#5 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by dlgis » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:01 pm

I’ve only just got on to the electrics, not my chosen subject. Will definitely order up the Coventry book.
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Post by mgcjag » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:07 pm

Darryl...all the wireing diagrams you should need are in the Knowledge base section....Steve
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Post by rswaffie » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:31 pm

And if you haven’t got one already, a decent multimeter - £20 will get one from Amazon. Mine was £15 and is still going strong 5 years on.
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#8 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by dlgis » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:22 pm

Yep I’ve got a old multimeter somewhere in the garage - will have a hunt for it
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#9 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by abowie » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:34 pm

TGN wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:09 pm
I think red/green is rear fog light. I had similar spare on my new loom behind the dash.
Yes. There's a takeoff for it on both sides under the dash. Only one of the rear looms is wired for it.

The red wires could be someone's attempt at wiring in a radio, there are no solid red wires in the original loom.

Whatever the earth is for (perhaps a radio), if everything's working it is doing no harm where it is.
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#10 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by Allrand » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:16 am

Are you sure those are both red/light green, the one looks red/yellow, which would be for front fog lights, connected to a 4 position ignition switch, if fitted.
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#11 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by dlgis » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:46 am

I’m pretty sure they are red/light green. Here’s a better photo below. It looks to me like they are related to wiper parking and should connect to a red spade connector that goes to the dash switch for the wipers if I’m interpreting the diag in the photo below correctly ?
I don’t have front fogs on the car or any rear fogs. I do have an aftermarket on/off switch near the steering column that doesn’t seem to do anything. Haven’t tested it to see if it’s live.

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Post by lowact » Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:27 am

The red will be yr missing dash/panel/map ligts. When light switch is on thoe loose bullets probably live, not good. Unless the fuse has been pulled ...
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#13 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by dlgis » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:41 pm

Right, it looks like the red/light green wires go to terminal 3 on the wiper switch :smile: So next job is to work out where the two reds with barrel ends go. They look like they might be for instrument or dash lights so I need to check if there are any obvious holes they would fit in :scratchheadyellow:


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#14 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by dlgis » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:42 pm

lowact wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:27 am
The red will be yr missing dash/panel/map ligts. When light switch is on thoe loose bullets probably live, not good. Unless the fuse has been pulled ...
Yep agreed thanks
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#15 Re: Electric wires mystery

Post by dlgis » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:32 pm

Hmmm, there are no missing locations that i can spot for the 2 barrel connectors waving in the air. As far as i can tell there are 3 barrel connectors to the under panel lighting strip, and a single barrel connector to each of the 4 centre instruments.
According to the wiring diagram the wires to the under dash panel lighting strip should be red/blue, and two are, but the third is solid red, so maybe someone has messed around with the wiring and that’s why I’ve got two redundant (presumably) barrel connectors with solid red wires!
The panel switch also seems to have an additional braided wire to it (colour unknown) that isn’t on the wiring diagram!.
I guess the next stage is to see what has power and what doesn’t - just need to find the multimeter :roll:

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