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#1 My new project

Post by No Quarter » Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:58 pm

Just bought this 64 OTS. From the US, rust, semi-complete. Looked through the parts today, haven't found anything that won't need work. Well, the windshield is good! :wink:
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#2 Re: My new project

Post by DWW » Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:39 pm

Will follow with interest :bigrin: You do have your work cut out on this one :questionmarks: If you need help tunning at the end of this project, there is a book..... :lol:
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#3 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:51 pm

Ha ha, Danny, yes, the tuning part, I'm not too worried about :bigrin:
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#4 Re: My new project

Post by Gfhug » Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:08 pm

Mikael, how about asking for this topic to be moved to the restoration section? A more appropriate place moderators?

I enjoyed watching progress of your first car and will enjoy reading this one, too. Good luck.

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#5 Re: My new project

Post by mgcjag » Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:30 pm

Easy for Mikael to start a resto thread if he wants to...Steve
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#6 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:53 am

So it's my second E-Type project, but...with regards to dismantling, it's my first, the previous E-Type was bought in boxes, totally disassembled.

How do I remove the torsion bars. I remember not being able to get them up to the shocks before I got engine in, and now I may have made a mistake, engine is out, so I have no weight in front. I have disconnected the steering rods and the upright, but what next? Shock, is that possible under spring tension? Or the two bolts at the other end? Or?
The thick plate from torsion rear point right to left, is off (missing)
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#7 Re: My new project

Post by mgcjag » Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:00 pm

The shock will be holding the lower wishbone that the torsion bar is connected to.....so there will be tension in the bars and on the shocks....proceed with caution....either add weight to the engine frame so you can jack under the lower wishbone to relieve tension to shock to disconnect it and then lower the jack or rig up turnbuckles etc....but ensure you know what your doing before you undo anything.....Steve
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#8 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:09 pm

mgcjag wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:00 pm
but ensure you know what your doing before you undo anything
then I'll never get anything done...

Caution is good here. I've taken all the surrounding stuff of, thinking about how to do it, tired now, so have all evening to think about it. My current thoughts:
1. Cut the shock in two. Yes it will kick down violently, but it's not like a coil spring that can fly 50 meters
2. 1., and add solid metal bar across top of picture frame, tighten with vices, rope down to lower A arms, just to soften the blow. Might then have to cut rope

I'm sure there's a better idea out there. Reinstalling engine, no thanks

Has anybody done what I suggest, and lived?
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#9 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:51 pm

I think I have a good solution. It's on a 2 post lift, and I'll use a strap to ensure that the front end can't lift from the lift so to speak, then I can use a jack to raise lower a-arm a bit and release shock in a controlled fashion...
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#10 Re: My new project

Post by mgcjag » Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:03 pm

:yeahthat: sounds like a plan.....Steve
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#11 Re: My new project

Post by politeperson » Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:29 pm

Yes Mikael, ratchet straps, I have done it,with the suspension arms supported on trolley jacks on a car that arrived with no engine.
It wasn't that bad,
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#12 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:04 am

I got the shocks and lower a-arm and torsion bars off with no drama, after having strapped in the front.

During my first project I manufactured a piece of metal for aligning torsion bars, as per the manual. I checked this project when shocks were off, spot on accurate...

Will work on IRS removal before I take more of the front end...
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#13 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:36 pm

And IRS down...
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#14 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:35 pm

The chassis is now ready for rust work, completely empty. The previous owner of my first project had started a car stand that was compact and allowed 45 degrees down to each side only. I've now extended it and built the connections to the frame, so now it can go 360. And by pure luck, it's perfectly balanced (so my next FHC will be top-heavy :wink: )

The missus is impressed I think...

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#15 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:38 pm

I asked Jaguar Heritage about this project, and VIN, chassis# and engine number are correct. :drinkingcheers:

The gearbox they didn't recognize. It says EB11638 on the top...

Just out of curiosity, is it possible to know which VIN it was originally in, or if it's a repair /replacement gearbox?
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#16 Re: My new project

Post by paydase » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:24 pm

Jaguar Heritage will never tell you in which car was originally this box.
Already difficult to find the origin of a replacement engine (you may be lucky by exploring XKEdata) but a gearbox...
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#17 Re: My new project

Post by mgcjag » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:43 pm

The gearbox number is stamped on the side of the casing..top rear left side....the top cover should have the same number stamped unless its been changed....Steve
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#18 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Tue Apr 01, 2025 12:32 pm

My parts guy tells me this is not an E-Type clutch, you agree? That means complete new clutch (and maybe flywheel?), what was original on 64, spring or diaphram?


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#19 Re: My new project

Post by mgcjag » Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:01 pm

Your on your 2nd restoration....what does the parts catlogue say?.....Steve
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#20 Re: My new project

Post by No Quarter » Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:05 pm

The drawings are not good enough for me to conclude either or... And have never seen a diaphram clutch for E-Type before...
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