Authenticity?

[nub120]

Copied from JL. 
Authenticity, bolstered by ‘original build’ details, holds immense value for enthusiasts. In a world where opportunists exploit vulnerabilities for profit, the significance of ‘original records’ as a means to validate proof of ownership cannot be overstated. These records validate the car’s authenticity, provenance, and specifications, significantly increasing its value.
​​​​​​​I’ve often wondered, what would be the monetary value of these records if they ever came up for sale?

[Gfhug]

An individual record or the complete set? Which I can’t image JLR selling!
There have been several topics here of (unscrupulous) people selling either a data plate and/or heritage certificate as a means of identification of a car or project. Sadly happens to too many classic/vintage cars to prove an incorrect identity

Geoff

[nub120]

Geoff, I was thinking of the entire collection, after all the heritage trust is basically a private enterprise (charity) that would surely consider an offer if the figure was right?

[paydase]

I believe some informations relatingnumbers/identities may be considered "private" and would require "redacting" before being transferred.

[MarekH]

​​​​​​​I’ve often wondered, what would be the monetary value of these records if they ever came up for sale?

If we assume that they charge £10 and all 77,000 etype owners want a certificate, then the cash value is capped at £770,000.

Now assume only 50% of the cars still survive, 50% of the remaining owners aren't bothered who originally owned the car and 50% of the remainder already have a cerificate anyway, then the total money yet to be extracted is £96,000

Now subtract the staff wages, their pension provision, the office space, electricity, business rates. postage.... and you can see why they'd want talk up the "value" and then be shot of their oh so valuable register.

It almost certainly doesn't pay its keep due to the staff costs alone. The cost of the certificate is essentially how long it takes to look it up in the book, bash out a copy on the laser printer and put it through the office franking machine.

kind regards
Marek

[flatfloor 3.8]

But dont the records cover Xk120, Xk140, Xk150, Mk1, Mk2, Mk10, Stype, 420, 420g Xj6 Etc.

[nub120]

'But dont the records cover Xk120, Xk140, Xk150, Mk1, Mk2, Mk10, Stype, 420, 420g Xj6 Etc.'
My point, exactly, also the kudos of owning the whole collection!

[mgcjag]

Only one way to find out....put in an offer.....Will be moving this thread to pup chat area.....Steve

[MarekH]

If you enter "how many etype jaguars are there left?" into google, it'll tell you 6192 (of ~72000) are still registered with DVLA.

If you do the same with the rest of that list, bar the s-type and sovereigns, 10000 of 235000 are still registered with DVLA. (Data tabulated from howmanyleft.co.uk)

Let's assume for every car sold in the UK, three were exported (across the board) and that the survival rate is the same (even though many would be older than the 1961-1974 etypes).

That means you have a pool of 40,000 potential certificate purchasers.

If you now (once again) assume half of those people don't want or need a certificate and half again already have one, then you get 10,000 potential sales at £10 per go.

The answer comes out almost the same as last time:- it's not a big money spinner.

kind regards
Marek