Play in steering wheel

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#1 Play in steering wheel

Post by Zei220 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:15 pm

Hello, I wonder if you can help? If I hold the UJ and rock the steering wheel I have about half an inch play in the steering wheel. I have checked for play in the top UJ and found none. I have checked for play in the steering wheel hub and found none.
Any suggestions what could be wrong?

TIA.
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#2 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by JerryL770 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:53 pm

Look at the rubber supports which hold the steering rack. I think if they fail, the rack can move a little without the wheels moving. The safety bolts prevent excessive movement or complete loss of steering with a loose rack.
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#3 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by Zei220 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:38 pm

Jerry, Thank you for the suggestion, but the rack mounts are new. I think the problem lays in the upper column because when I rock the steering wheel the movement doesn't show at the UJ end,
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#4 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by mgcjag » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:44 pm

Is it in/out or up/down movement....shouldn't be difficult....its right in front of you....what's moveing..is the adjuster tight.....can you loosen it and slide the wheel in/out ....are the bolts attaching it to the dash/bulkhead tight
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#5 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by Zei220 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:57 pm

The steering wheel rotates left and right about half an inch. I cant detect any up down movement. It feels very similar the a wheel out of balance. I can hold the UJ and move the wheel back and forward and the UJ doesn't move, so the problem is within the upper column.
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#6 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by mgcjag » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:16 pm

If the wheel isnt moveing the uj then check if its bolted to the splines or splines worn..time to dismantle ...Steve
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#7 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by Zei220 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:23 pm

Steve, that was the conclusion I had come to, but I thought I'd ask just in case I had missed something.
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#8 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by Zei220 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:14 pm

Ok I think I’ve found the problem, there is play in the column where the column is designed to collapse into its self.
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#9 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by dougal » Mon Jun 08, 2026 4:12 pm

Might i suggest that play in the steering wheel is probably caused by over size tyres.

if you fit tyres bigger than 185R15 you are over loading the steering which dramatically increases the rate of wear.

this will also happen if you dont use proper period tyres, such as 185VR15 Dunlop SP Sport, Michelin XVS or Pirelli Cinturato. nothing else is good enough.

205/70VR15 will wear the steerin faster

205/65R15 will wear it even faster.
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#10 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by Zei220 » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:41 pm

Thank you Dougal. I have identified the problem and the solution. The problem was due to the tube with the two flats had started to deform allowing the inner shaft to rotate slightly.

All sorted now.

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#11 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by johnetype » Mon Jun 08, 2026 10:07 pm

I have the same problem; may I ask what your solution was?
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#12 Re: Play in steering wheel

Post by Zei220 » Mon Jun 08, 2026 10:37 pm

I removed the upper steering column and put a very small weak weld on the outer tube, which removed the play. I removed most of the weld with the angle grinder.
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