2+2 values

[Bobpipedream]

Hi all,

Confused by 2+2 values as many are being sold very cheap. Admittedly most are probably hiding small time bombs under the carpets. But for me it was a simple decision to go 2+2 as they look virtually the same and the doors are big enough to get in if you are 6 foot plus and little monster can fit in the back (although he may not be so little by the time I finish).

So what is a good fully restored and original UK series 1 2+2 manual realistically worth these days? Just interested as happy with mine and content with amount of work, but would be interesting to know what she will be worth when done.

Back to cutting, so much cutting...

[christopher storey]

A really beautiful S 1.5 2+2 belonging to a friend of mine has recently been valued at ?32,500 . The problem, as ever, is that he has spent much more than that over the years . If you are going to restore one, do it as a labour of love, without expecting to get your money back . That way you will not become bitter and twisted . They are, incidentally, very nice cars to drive and this particular example is by far the most refined E I have ever been in , and they are particularly well suited to long distance touring . So , as a car , in my view they are well worth restoring . As a financial proposition, however, they are the least sensible option

[paulj]

Hi
very happy , my 2+2 has been valued at ?60,000
and I was offered ?50,000 last year
so dont be fooled by the lower value they are climbing fast
most people cant tell the difference
if your an e type buff then fine whatever rocks your boat
but i can honestly say mine is really useful everything fits easier on the doors and i see it as a great asset
happy 2+2 owner :D

[PeterCrespin]

Who offered you 50K and please can I have her phone number?

[Bobpipedream]

Thanks everyone,

That actually cheers me up as my estimate based on full rechrome, panels (bought and fitting now), new wire loom etc. is ?20k including buying car. It will be a labour of love and not intending to sell, but nice to know that it is kind of financially sound too.

I have the feeling however that if any E is going to gain value, it is the 2+2. Many people want a practical classic ( hence all the modifications people talk about). Many people are over 6 feet now. The figures of ?70k seem very high and may meet the pockets of the seriously wealthy, but most enthusiasts can support a ?25-40k purchase. Some think the longer doors of the 2+2 are nicer in proportion. Personally I think that the increasing FHC and OTS values are leaving a gap that could either create a slide in values later or encourage 2+2 values higher. Lets hope it's the latter!

[1954Etype]

People have been surprised at the low cost of 2+2s for years but they still remain flat. Possibly with the coupes and OTS cars still climbing at a ridiculous rate, they might follow but historically, they haven't. We all have our own views on what car will gain the most value. I think the Series 2, non 2+2 cars will be next as demand for the S1 cars will outstrip supply.

[mystery type]

A nice S1 2+2 for sale here, and ONLY ?73k.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-2-2-E- ... 460b385763

[Bobpipedream]

Do like that one on ebay, but it does seem a lot by any standard. Of course all the prices are what people want rather than what they get.

A nice looking 2+2 series 2 was advertised for ?23k and went very quick which may be underpricing at work. Meanwhile some pitch at ?49k. More than any other E, the 2+2 seems very wild in how people set their price.

Perhaps the reason is also to do with the quality of the stock? I get the feeling that not so many 2+2s have had proper restorations. Certainly mine was a test in how to glue floors in with seam sealer (test failed!).

[ralphr1780]

Here you can see some interesting 2+2 offered on this side of the pond:
http://www.leboncoin.fr/_vehicules_/off ... 2%2B2&it=1

[MarkE]

I believe that the values of 2+2 cars seem low because, on average, the quality of the car isn't as high as the convertibles / FHCs.

15 or 20 years ago convertibles were generally at the top of the pile, and you wouldn't see too many cars needing restoration. FHCs were seemingly half the price, but many of them had poor restorations or were in need of restorations. 2+2 cars were at the bottom, and nearly all of them needed a lot of work.

Then folks recognised the appeal of the FHCs, and the quality of the 'stock' slowly rose over the next 10 years or so, and now, the convertible and FHC are pretty well on a par, with maybe a 10% difference in cars of the same quality.

I'm sure that will happen with the 2+2 as well, as the quality of many of the cars improves as they get restored to a high,professional standard. They are E Types after all!

I think that the wild pricing you are seeing reflects the change from a generally poor standard to a higher standard. It's very easy and quite cheap to make an E Type look good for a few months, so be extra careful, and only buy a car with provenance, and get the car checked out by someone who really knows E Types.

I always say this to folks looking for a Plus 2....have a look at the V12 S3. The extra length of the body is balanced by the extra width of the S3....and it's a V12!

[Harbieboy]

The 2013 Classic Car price guide from Octane show 2+2 prices at ?60K for excellent and ?40K for good cars (up 100 % from the 2011 guide). So clearly 2+2 prices have been on the rise. Makes me happy as I have just acquired an excellent restored 2+2 a the lower end of this range :D