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by r.ludeke » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:03 pm
Hello everyone, i am in the proces of restoring my e-type ser 2. Finally there it looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel. (started somewhere in 2006) The car is resprayed in old english white and the interior is allmost finished. Waiting for an exhaust from sng barrat and then we are going to start the engine. The engine is rebuild with allmost everything new but this was all done a couple of years ago. When assembling we put run in grease on all the bearings. I am not convinced this will be enough to protect them and was wondering if there is a way of priming the oil pump and pressing oil through the engine so everything is lubricated before attempting to start the engine?

This picture is from february, at this time it is allready looking like a complete car ;)
Hope somebidy can tell me how to prime the engine and pump with oil.
Kind regards, Rolf
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by paulsco » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:58 am
To prime the engine, fill it with oil and then you simply turn it over on the starter with the ignition disconnected (so it cannot start) until you see oil pressure on the gauge or the oil light goes out.
Best to take the plugs out so the starter is not working too hard.
Paul
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by r.ludeke » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:03 pm
Thank you, it was my plan to do it this way but read a lot of advice that you have to prime the pump first. I was thinking of filling the pump from the oil filter but i'm not sure if there is a valve in the pump which could be blocking the oil coming in that way. I am a bit afraid to ruin the engine. It is looking so good now.

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by Durango2k » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:44 pm
Same as mine at the moment :-)
Why did you use 8:1 pistons (lower dome) ?
Carsten
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by Mark Gordon » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:18 pm
You can run lower octane petrol with the 8:1 pistons. Save some money and drive more. :D
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by r.ludeke » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:22 pm
If i'm honest, its to long ago to recall why i chose these pistons. I had a specialist here in the netherlands who put in the new sleeves and did the head job, i believe he said to chose the ones i have, But why?????
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by r.ludeke » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:51 pm
Maybe the fuel octane was the reason, i have to run the car on unleaded 95 here in the netherlands.
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by r.ludeke » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:30 am
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by paulsco » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:37 am
I've opted for 8:1's as well. you never know how much has already been skimmed from the head and block on these old engines and 95 is easier and cheaper to purchase.
From what I can determine, the power difference is minimum and if the block and head have been skimmed already you are probably near to 9:1 anyway.
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by r.ludeke » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:12 am
Yesss, that was the reason. Thank you, the engine specialist here in the netherlands measured the head and had to skim it once more. So we decided to buy the 8:1 compression pistons.
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by christopher storey » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:41 pm
Oil priming : I made sure that my new engine was fully oiled by plugging a garden sprayer into the oil gallery which runs along the right hand side of the block, and then filling the engine with about 3 litres of oil from the sprayer using about 0.4 bar / 6 lbs per sq,in . It was most interesting to see how quickly oil flowed from the camshaft bearings under this pressure, and thus I could be sure that the whole engine was properly primed
I too used 8:1 pistons for the same reasons, and my engine ( admittedly fully balanced ) is very sweet indeed
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by r.ludeke » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:33 pm
That sounds like the idea i was looking for. Can you explain where exactly you connected the hose? I would love to see the oil coming from the camshaft bearings before attempting to start the engine ;)
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by PeterCrespin » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:42 pm
Sinds wanneer is dit een Benelux forum? Als we allemaal nederlands gaan spreken, mag ik meedoen met plat Antwerps? :-)
Since you have already used assembly lube I do not think you need to worry at all about the few seconds of spinning without plugs to circulate oil. The pump is self priming. Remember the bearings get oil long before the gauge registers pressure. Putting a hose fitting into a spare gallery plug lets you prime the gallery and filter passages if you are really paranoid but unless you like the fun of doing it I wouldn't bother.
Veel succes.
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by r.ludeke » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:54 pm
Thank you i will take your opinion in cosideration. I must admit i'm a little paranoid.
En plat antwerps is altijd goed ;)
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by christopher storey » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:26 am
It does not just prime the gallery and filter passages, ( per P Crespin ) but primes the entire engine. I undid one of the blanking plugs on the filter , made up a plug with a tube on it which was then screwed into the gallery, and then attached the garden spray hose to it. i see from the pic that, contrary to what I said earlier, I screwed a pressure gauge( rather than the supply hose ) into the gallery which showed me the 6 lbs/sq.in

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by r.ludeke » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:10 pm
Thanks for the picture. I think i will do it the same way. Engine looks very nice by the way.