Matching Numbers

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mystery type
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Post by mystery type » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:06 pm

if you stamped the replaced head/gearbox/engine or whatever with your new matching numbers. then sold the original item and someone repaired it and used it in their car.
i can imagine that causing a few headaches should it come to light.
its not right in my book.

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Post by steve3.8 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:41 pm

The Telegraph article refers to "new" parts being stamped with original numbers , not quite the same as the grinding off of numbers assigned to a different car .
Is it illegal or immoral ? , if it's for monetary gain it's illegal .

For me more immoral practices go on with for example the creation of lightweight replica's etc .
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#23 Matching Numbers

Post by budmarston@aol.com » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:38 pm

Major car components, such as the chassis, engine, body, and gearbox for the E-type, are stamped with unique numbers. For the E-type, a metal data plate pop-riveted in the engine bay was stamped with the same unique numbers, providing a way to verify whether a specific Major Component was the one originally installed in the car as it left Brown's Lane.

An E-type with 'matching numbers' indicates that all four Major Components are the original ones mated to that specific car on the assembly line. By definition, the term matching numbers (for an E-type) refers only to the four Major Components; it does not/does not refer to other smaller components, many of which carry various markings, including date stamps. But we all know that, don't we?

In the United States, legal significance is attached to the term 'matching numbers,' especially for the VIN (chassis) but also for other Major Components. Falsifying a VIN number in the United States is a criminal offense. Incorrectly stamping or otherwise tampering with other Major Component numbers with the intent to mislead can (and has) resulted in law suits and civil penalties for false representation at sale. A customer who purchases a Jaguar E-type that is represented as having matching numbers does so with the expectation that its four Major Components are the very same ones installed in the car during production. Enough of the tortured logic on this website.

Let's be frank. Most re-stamping of original components on classic cars is done to mislead, pure and simple. If you believe that re-stamping an engine head or block is OK, I'd advise to think again. If you believe a classic car expert cannot detect a re-stamped component, think again. If the intent is to fool a concours judge, then go ahead and take unfair advantage of your fellow competitors. If you believe you can make an extra pound by tampering with the numbers, be prepared to defend yourself in court.

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