Scissor lift ...lift points

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:50 pm

I have just bought, not yet received a Scissor lift . This is the type with a clear centre so it should be possible to work under the car quite easily,

I have one question, though. As the chassis rails are towards the centre of the car I am not 100% sure whether they will fit on the ramps with the rubber blocks that come with the car.

this is the lift I have bought.

http://www.automotechservices.co.uk/pro ... ssor-lift/

has anyone used one of these with an E Type and if so can you tell me the best locations for lifting the car please? I am sort of assuming the rear IRS mount although with the tie strap fitted its not a nice flat surface, and at the front maybe a suspension pick up on the lower wishbone area.

Post by **mgcjag** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:01 pm

Hi Andrew....a friend of mine i think has exactly the same lift....will get him to look at this post and reply......do you need a compressor with this lift to release the locks to lower it?.. Steve

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:41 pm

Indeed you do. It's a pretty popular style I think. Thanks. Andrew

ralphr1780 · Post by **ralphr1780** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:24 pm

Andrew, I doubt this model would work properly on an E, but curious to learn more.
I was tempted by basically the same design but another brand available here, and when I asked the nearby seller about compatibility with an E Type he clearly said no-go. So have bought this one which I found extremely practical and secure http://oreiko.com/product/EN/240/OreikO ... kg-CE.html
No affiliation nor direct or indirect interest, just a happy user.

neil4444 · Post by **neil4444** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:35 pm

Hi Andrew,

Hutsons used one on my car rebuild. Not sure if same model lift. Here you go...

Regards,

JagWaugh · Post by **JagWaugh** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:51 pm

Pay attention to the balance: If the IRS is in and you use the rear donuts, even with the frame and front suspension in... if you leave the wheels off the front it will be just barely in balance (on a SI FHC at least).

Andrew

james-t · Post by **james-t** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:53 pm

Andrew, steve flagged this query to me as i have owned the exact same lift for 12 months. I have a series 2 2+2 and it fits perfectly. I use the rubber blocks under each of the four jacking points(mushroom jacking points on my car). When i lift the car all four extention ramps lower to free all wheels for maintenance and cleaning. I am able to service the gear box,back axle and exhaust system without restriction. Having said that, you have a shorter wheel base so you will need to place the front or rear wheels ,depending on which ones you want to work on, onto the extention ramps so when the car is lifted the ramps fall to free the wheels. Yes you will need a compressor to lower the ramps as air is required to lift the two locks. One thing to get used to is that when lowering the ramps it actually rises about four inches to release the locks before lowering. If you stop the process when lowering, it will rise again before lowering further. You will get used to it when you have used it a few times. In all ,perfectly adequate for DIY maintenance. The real test will come this winter when I drop the engine and gearbox ,allowing the lift to raise the car and for the engine to be left on a trolley! Hope this helps James .

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:51 pm

Thank you James . I have given a lot of thought to this and feel this is the best compromise which they all are ultimately. I have seen a photo which appears to have an E FHC supported on its chassis rails . I would be concerned about relying upon the jacking points but i don't know why. They are all brand new. Would your 2+2 sit on its chassis rails if needs be? I also believe the extension ramps are detachable for removal of the rear IRS OR FRONT suspension?

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:52 pm

Thank you James . I have given a lot of thought to this and feel this is the best compromise which they all are ultimately. I have seen a photo which appears to have an E FHC supported on its chassis rails . I would be concerned about relying upon the jacking points but i don't know why. They are all brand new. Would your 2+2 sit on its chassis rails if needs be? I also believe the extension ramps are detachable for removal of the rear IRS OR FRONT suspension?

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:52 pm

paydase · Post by **paydase** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:12 am

ralphr1780 wrote:So have bought this one which I found extremely practical and secure http://oreiko.com/product/EN/240/OreikO ... kg-CE.html
No affiliation nor direct or indirect interest, just a happy user.

Ralph,
Do the arms of your scissor lift allow a good positioning under lifting points of an E-Type (which ones do you choose?) and does the car look well balanced when lifted?
Also do you have a sufficiently easy access underneath (engine, IRS, sills...) when the car is lifted or are you limited to work on wheels/suspensions?

ralphr1780 · Post by **ralphr1780** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:40 am

Serge,
The arms allow indeed a good positioning: at the lower wishbone on the front, and on the donut of the radius arm at the back.
Access is convenient for the usual maintenance tasks, while engine removal could be possible with careful planning that is not something I would try; IRS removal looks workable but can tell you about it more in few weeks. If you want a couple pics with the car in the air, let me know.
P.S.: OTS has only one jacking point.

44DHR · Post by **44DHR** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:33 am

Just checking - but no-one is saying that the complete rear suspension is just hanging up in free air held by it's 4 rubber mounts are they ?

regards,

Dave

JagWaugh · Post by **JagWaugh** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:56 pm

With new mounts... yep.

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:39 pm

44DHR wrote:Just checking - but no-one is saying that the complete rear suspension is just hanging up in free air held by it's 4 rubber mounts are they ?

regards,

Dave

do you not think that's a good idea then? I guess it has the radius arms connected in a lift situation and the anti roll bar as well as the rubber mounts. But I get its a lot of weight.

JagWaugh · Post by **JagWaugh** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:03 pm

I do it with new mounts to see if they are crap or not. Sometimes you want the car up and the IRS free. I use rachet straps hooked to the Bump stop studs via a pair of sheet metal "thingies" I made, (I guess you could bend some "S" hooks) and around the D/S or wishbones if I am not sure of the mounts.

I've had a couple of XJ IRSs stay on the floor while lifting, and a couple come down with a bang.

The point about tipping holds, regardless of if the IRS is secured, hanging from healthy mounts, or resting on the swingarms, ARB, and driveshaft.

Andrew

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:06 pm

perhaps the same as yumping over hump back bridges then! not recommended

Post by **mgcjag** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:07 pm

This has been discussed many times before, All of the major restoration firms use 2 post lifts, therefore the IRS will be hanging free........ So long as you are aware of the possibility that all the mounts could let go and support it if you are working under there should be no risk.....as with any lift or jack just take care.... Steve

JagWaugh · Post by **JagWaugh** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:30 pm

Not quite, when I Yump over a Hump none of my body parts are under the IRS. If this differs from your experience, Andrew, then I submit that there is something odd with either your Bridges, or your Yumping, Fix that, and you'll be fine.

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:13 pm

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