Under-Dash, Cabin Harduras, Carpets - a different way ?

[Hugo]

Hugo,
You are mixing two different properties of heat transfer. Also you do not state references so your information comes across as guessing or miss-information. More details needed and less standing in left field, so to counter the "Hugo" effect:

I don't think I was mixing anything - I was talking about radiated heat alone. And 'references'? I thought I was just stating the bleedin' obvious!
I read through the first article you quoted - I will get to the second a bit later. But the first article endorses exactly the point I made earlier; -
"For aesthetic reasons, and also because it seems to be the custom, the radiators used in heating buildings are usually coated with aluminum or bronze paint. From the viewpoint of obtaining the maximum amount of heat from a radiator of a given size aluminum or bronze paints are the most inefficient materials that can be applied."

[Gfhug]

Rory has given us a very interesting alternative option for the harduras and carpets. Thank you Rory.

Sadly, it has become yet another topic in which one person, always the same person, decides to take it completely off topic and doesn't take the message when it is pointed out to him. Such conjecture, argument and not listening to what is said is destroying the genuine exchange of useful information.

Is is also undermining this forum and leading to a loss of appreciation for its benefits and pleasure of reading and gaining from it.

Some might say we don't have to read a particular topic. But when a topic in which I, or others, have asked a question and waiting for the topic author to respond, it is extremely annoying and frustrating to have it taken over. Especially by someone who is either trying to deliberately annoy, or just has to argue that black is white for the sake of it.

Geoff

[Simon P]

Blimey - for 'I call a spade a spade' Rory to give it both barrels is perhaps not that unusual, but for 'Mild mannered superhero' Geoff to snap things must be serious.

FWIW, Hugo, mate, read some of what's written and take it on board. You'll notice that I rarely post in the Technical section, although I read pretty much every post. That's because I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing, but I'm very happy to learn from those who do (and there are plenty of them on here). In other words, to quote my favourite mantra as espoused by the great philosopher Dirty Harry: 'A man's gotta know his limitations'.

There has been a noticeable drop-off of late of postings by many of the old hands. I don't know if that's because they're tired or wary of the potential for getting into a bunfight over even fairly fundamental stuff, but if so it would be a pity. Nothing wrong with challenging accepted wisdom when it's due - sometimes genuine progress happens this way - but as Rory has said, arguing black is white just for the sake of it gets tiresome for everyone and the real answer gets lost in all the confusion.

Right. That's it. My sole contribution to the Technical section over and done with for another year.

Peace. Out.

[Hugo]

Well ok, but according to the sources Geoff Green posted I was quite correct in what I said. So if anything, I was actually arguing that white is white, not that black is white!
Here's my problem - if I see a statement that appears to be incorrect I challenge it. I don't care if it's the 'accepted wisdom' or not. If people didn't challenge the accepted wisdom, we would still be living on a flat Earth, or at least one that was at the centre of the solar system.
If other members would prefer to live in their own comfort zone where ignorance is bliss, that's fine with me and I shall desist in future.
But on this point I was right

[mgcjag]

Hi All....lets draw a line under this one now.....any other replies not dealing with with the topic title will be deleted Thanks.. Steve

[rfs1957]

Strictly on message Steve.

One of our Canadian cousins asked by PM for help in identifying this stuff, and indeed I didn't know what it was really called until I did some searching.

It's trade-name is "Dibond" - I see that it's listed everywhere, including a random choice like this :

http://www.cutplasticsheeting.co.uk/dib ... ite-sheet/

and, happily in Canada, here :

http://www.sterlingpromotions.ca/Dibond-Board.html

Hope that helps ; it's only ever mentioned as a flat ressource, but it's really easy to tweak it by scoring one or the other of the faces and then curving it or bending it.

I might happily have used just the 3mm-thick version had I known it existed, I suspect it would be amply stiff enough.

It's one of those unimaginable products that you start to find uses for once you discover it exists .............

It has produced fantastic results within the cockpit and is of course quite invisible.

Just be careful to cut it short enough so the edges fall behind carpet edges, and you can even tweak those to pull them under a little tension and flatten them over the Dibond edge to hide it still further by using contact adhesive and a strip of vinyl to put tension on the back face.

Any doubts just ask.

[rfs1957]

I noticed that all the pictures were inaccessible, so I've re-routed them and they should all work now.

[AshM]

Thanks for taking the time to do that Rory. There is some extremely helpful material in this stream.

Cheers
Ash

[Gfhug]

Rory, I'll add my thanks as I am planning on following your advice this winter for the side harduras.

Geoff