Starter failure ....!

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#1 Starter failure ....!

Post by Polse7317 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:46 am

I have since some days a intermittent issue when i start the engine :
I hear a "click" when i push the starter button at the dash once or until 8 trys and then the starter works engage....
I have checked at the connector thinking it was something loosed but found nothing .
What can be the culprit ? Starter relay ?
My starter is a "almost new" one from SNG B :shrug:
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#2 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by mgcjag » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:36 am

Hi Yves...i assume you have a seperate starter solonoid......check it out.....Steve
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#3 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by politeperson » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:15 pm

Have you got the spacer ring in place?
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#4 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by malcolm » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:47 pm

Sounds like solenoid to me. Had that dreaded click on my TR4 when solenoid was dodgy
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#5 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by Polse7317 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Spacer ring??? , separate solenoïd I think so .... :scratchheadyellow: my starter seems to have two components gathered



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How can i check the solenoïd?
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#6 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by mgcjag » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:25 pm

Is you starter an aftermarket high torque unit?....Steve
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#7 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by Polse7317 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:37 pm

I think so but i must confirm at SNG
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#8 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by mgcjag » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:59 pm

The unit by the battery is a starter solonoid and your starter motor also has a starter solonoid by the looks of it....you need to start testing the electrics....your start button operates and you here a click.....so whats clicking....is it the solonoid by the battery......does this then extent the power through to your starter motor?.....Steve
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#9 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by Polse7317 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:10 pm

I have to test that , but need of course someone by the engine to diagnose where the click comes from....!
I 'll post when i'll know :salute:
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#10 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by mgcjag » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:39 pm

Yves.....disconnect the battery.........switch on ignition.....press in start button and hold in place with a stick or similar......go to the battery. ...just touch on the disconnected connector.......you should hear the clicking....Steve
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#11 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by Polse7317 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:45 pm

:fingerscrossed: 'll try that tomorow. May be i can squeeze the connector near the battery if what i thought is a solenoid
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#12 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by Polse7317 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:51 pm

The wiring to the starter is direct from the battery the big wire is connected on the same "bolt" on the old solenoid . So i think that it's my starter which is not operating sometimes . I don't think i can replace the solenoid "binded" close to the starter . i'll resove to replace it .
I am not happy to do that because i have to take out the central console for acces to the upper nut of the starter.... :roll:
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#13 Re: Starter failure ....!

Post by mgcjag » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:40 pm

Hi Yves...i thought thete was an access hole to get to the top bolt without removeing center consul.....have a good look under the bulkhead carpet.....think its a large grommet/removable panel.....Steve https://themotorphile.com/2010/11/22/ja ... n-starter/
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