Horns Location

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#1 Horns Location

Post by jagwheels » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:17 am

Hi to all again. Where does the horns go on a S1 FHC 4.2 and what brackets are used to fix them. If you have a picture of them with the brackets would be good as I want to make the brackets if I can.
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Post by 265bhp » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:09 pm

Hi
I believe for a 4.2 the horns fix to the front picture frames, along the bottom
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Post by ChrisC » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:20 am

That is correct UNLESS you have an early 4.2 like mine... the horns were inside the bonnet near the headlights as per the 3.8s.

I am unsure of the transition date for this though but if your wiring loom doesnt have a couple of tails for the horns on the picture frame - then the horns were probably originally inside the bonnet...
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#4 Horn location

Post by jagwheels » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:12 pm

Thanks lads. I found the wires at the picture frame and just need to make up some brackets to fix them. More or less sorted thanks
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Post by osgii » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:55 am

http://www.grainedevie.ch/restaurations ... 624274.jpg
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I should have them somewhere in my storage, zink plated... if you need quotes.
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Post by andrewh » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:28 pm

I have just discovered, that my new jaguar series one bonnet does not come with the original horn brackets spot welded inside the headlight pods. There is a horn bracket listed for the 4.2 but from what has been said above these fit to the picture frames which is not going to be acceptable to me as its non standard. Which bracket is this guys, the one that mounts on the picture frame or the one inside the early cars? Its certainly different to the bracket that was in my old bonnet which is now no doubt been reborn as a washing machine

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Post by Heuer » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:56 pm

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Post by andrewh » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:12 pm

Hi David. I think these are the same as was on my old bonnet, therefore a 3.8 set up. I could make up something like this and try to bolt it in position using a riv nut I guess as I think the box section it is spotted to is in accessible from behind. What I wanted to try to establish is whether the 4.2 brackets I posted above fit elsewhere inside this aperture or are the picture frame brackets.
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Post by Heuer » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:26 pm

Picture frame brackets. The 3.8 horns are very heavy compared to the little ones used on the 4.2's so you will need something pretty substantial. Either get the correct 3.8 brackets (try Hutson's) and bolt them on or make some up.
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Post by andrewh » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:28 pm

I will call Andy tomorrow. Seems a shame Jaguar see fit to neglect to put them in at point of manufacture.
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Post by Heuer » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:49 am

This picture got missed out during yesterday's Forum database corruption. This is the 4.2 horn and bracket:
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Post by Heuer » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:19 pm

And this is the 3.8 bracket:
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Post by andrewh » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:27 pm

Thanks David. I have now managed to purchase a bracket from Andy at Hutsons. Just need to fix it somehow, thinking of trying the new two pack bonding stuff from 3M. They glue cars together with it
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Post by Heuer » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:05 pm

Those horns are very heavy you may want to consider some form of mechanical fixing rather than relying on glue. They are also ahead of the suspension so they will be subject to a fair amount of momentum.
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Post by andrewh » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:56 am

Yes. They are heavy. I suppose I will have to fix them some other way as well
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